The history of the 1970 Kent State massacre you haven’t heard

Marc Steiner:  Welcome to The Marc Steiner Display right here on The Actual Information. I’m Marc Steiner. It’s admirable to have you ever all with us.

Many public keep in mind or know concerning the age when the Nationwide Barricade opened fireplace on scholars at Kent Order College once they had been protesting towards the struggle in Vietnam. 4 scholars had been killed that future: Allison Krause, Sandra Scheuer, Jeffrey Miller, and William Schroeder, and 9 others had been wounded. And simply 11 days upcoming that, on the predominantly African American College Jackson Order in Mississippi, two scholars, Philip Lafayette Gibbs and James Earl Inexperienced had been killed year 12 others had been wounded. And previous in Augusta, Georgia, many public had been killed when the Lightless nation erupted over the killing of a 12-year-old boy by means of police. Those are moments that many people lived thru, ones we’ll by no means omit. They’re indelible in our minds.

Mike Alewitz used to be a pupil at Kent Order on that future when 4 unarmed scholars had been gunned unwell by means of the Nationwide Barricade. Mike is lecturer emeritus of censorship, artwork, and politics at Central Connecticut Order College. Now, when he used to be a pupil at Kent Order, he used to be chairman of the Scholar Mobilization [Committee] towards the struggle in Vietnam. He’s now a world-renowned muralist whose paintings crosses the folk and the arena. Actor Martin Sheen mentioned about him, Mike’s paintings supplies an noteceable instance of ways a person, by means of basing their artwork at the ingenious energy of the operating elegance, can build a frame of labor which is helping to teach, arrange, and agitate for a greater international.

So Mike, welcome. Excellent to have you ever with us.

Mike Alewitz:  Thanks for having me.

Marc Steiner:  So right here we’re at this pace, those anniversaries of Kent Order, Jackson Order. You had been in the course of Kent Order. May just you, for public who possibly learn the historical past, don’t even in point of fact know what took place, speak about that age, the place you had been as a pupil, and precisely the way you felt and what you noticed?

Mike Alewitz:  Neatly, the bloodbath took park on Might 4 of 1970, and I used to be a pupil activist at Kent. I used to be chair of the Scholar Mobilization Committee towards the struggle, which subsidized demonstrations of a number of thousand scholars on campus. And we were organizing, I began at Kent in ’68, and we had been organizing towards the struggle, and the anti-war motion nationally used to be turning into a majority motion.

And what took place used to be that Nixon introduced the invasion of Cambodia, which used to be mainly a big escalation of the struggle in Southeast Asia. And that started a countrywide pupil collision. And what took place used to be that, 3 days nearest, the shootings took park, and that used to be like a spark, and that simply threw fuel on it.

And so, the collision changed into this large match. 4 million scholars had been on collision. Over 900 campuses had protests and demonstrations, together with top faculties, many top faculties, and 400 universities had been in demand. It all started to be a big nationwide pupil collision. A few of us socialists who had been concerned had been mainly looking to observe the instance of the scholars in France in Might/June of 1968 who marched to the manufacturing facility gates and known as out the employees, 10 million employees joined, and it changed into a modern condition in France. They worn the bottom of the college to prepare from, they known as it the purple college, the idea that of the college.

Neatly, we didn’t have a purple college. We had been arranged, an anti-war college, and that’s what we started to do. We attempted to tug in combination a countrywide coalition because the collision used to be unfold, and it simply changed into this large, natural, nationwide motion, the most important protest that had ever taken park in the USA as much as that pace.

As you discussed, there used to be, upcoming Kent, there used to be the bloodbath at Jackson. Two scholars killed — In fact an unknown quantity. In most cases public usefulness 12. However the reality used to be that Lightless scholars understood that they had been getting to get other remedy than the scholars at Kent Order. And so, we all know that some didn’t walk to hunt clinical aid as a result of they felt they might’ve been charged and thrown in prison, which is slightly possible.

In between those two pupil massacres used to be the bloodbath in Augusta, Georgia, the place six Lightless males had been killed, shot within the again, and 60 wounded, most commonly shot within the again. In order that used to be pristine of their minds at Jackson Order.

However those occasions, the usefulness of the Nationwide Barricade — At Jackson, it used to be the law enforcement officials, it wasn’t the Nationwide Barricade — However the usefulness of the Nationwide Barricade had a profound impact on a accumulation of public as a result of, mainly, what they had been sight used to be america army now grew to become its weapons by itself public.

And a accumulation of the affect used to be within the military. I had in truth ended up in Texas upcoming the collision, and I used to be serving to to prepare GIs towards the struggle, and the shootings at Kent marked, and the nationwide pupil collision, for a accumulation of energetic accountability GIs, used to be a turning level, and the anti-war motion within the military changed into a pile motion. That used to be a majority motion that started to unfold. It unfold into Southeast Asia.

A accumulation of this historical past has been suppressed, however there have been large revolts. There have been 600,000 males unfilled over the process the struggle. In Southeast Asia, infantrymen had been fragging their officials. They had been killing officials. There have been ships that had been taken over. There used to be primary rebellions on an plane provider. The Military used to be misplaced to the ruling [inaudible] at the struggle, and that completely reworked American politics. It utterly reworked international politics. America hasn’t ever been in a position to win a struggle since that pace, and has to battle its wars with out involving the American public, to a massive extent, as a result of public are utterly anti-war. The American public are anti-war.

Marc Steiner:  Couple of items. First I’m going to return again to what you mentioned concerning the American public being anti-war. After all, we’ve got an all-volunteer Military, which may be very other than having a mass-based Military that used to be drafted into the carrier once we had been younger. I do wish to come again to that.

However I wish to rush this again to Kent Order for a negligible. I would like you to aid paint an image of that age and what in truth took place and what you felt at that age. There have been demonstrations taking park all around the nation, however this modified the whole thing as a result of there have been infantrymen who in truth fired on scholars, who had been their day, and gunned public unwell. And it led to a complete subculture with Crosby, Stills, Nash & Younger, and alternative songs being written about Kent Order. It gripped the folk. So rush us again to that age while you had been a tender pupil at Kent Order.

Mike Alewitz:  Neatly, what took place used to be the invasion of Cambodia used to be introduced on a Friday, I believe it used to be on Friday. And so, we had the preliminary actions that you’d be expecting. The Lightless scholars held an illustration, the historical past scholars buried a Charter as a symbolic business. There have been some such things as that. There used to be unrest in downtown Kent.

And next, in what appeared to be, to me, to be the paintings of agent provocateurs, the ROTC construction used to be burned unwell. Now, the ROTC used to be the army presence on campus. In fact, over the process the anti-war motion, there have been various ROTC constructions that had been burned unwell. The only at Kent used to be in truth an aged picket construction from International Conflict II that used to be scheduled to be destroyed anyway.

That used to be worn as a pretext. And we’re going to look the similar factor with what’s unfolding in Los Angeles. What they do is that they usefulness those occasions, whether or not it’s agent provocateurs or simply [inaudible] or well-meaning public attractive in provocative actions, it’ll be worn as an forgiveness for army motion. And that’s what took place at Kent.

So the usage of the demolition of the ROTC construction, Nixon in cahoots, Nixon got here out and famously known as the scholars bums, the scholar protestors. And next Gov. Rhodes of Ohio echoed that. He got here to Kent, there used to be this choreographing the place he stood over some burned guns that had been in truth by no means guns, they had been simply worn for exercising, marching round campus and stuff. However the implication used to be, oh my God, there’s this factor taking park, similar to they’re looking to do at the moment in Los Angeles. And they laid the political framework for the bloodbath.

Now, on Might 4, we assembled at the Commons, which used to be a standard isolated pronunciation section, as a result of there’d been protests for a few years. The Commons were designated as a park you might want to accumulation an job. You didn’t must get permission forward of pace or anything else, you simply walk usefulness it. And we shaped up, there have been a pair thousand scholars. It used to be in large part unorganized and simply spontaneous, natural. And we shaped up at the Commons. The safe used to be at the alternative aspect of the Commons —

Marc Steiner:  The Nationwide Barricade, ethical?

Mike Alewitz:  Yeah. Our accumulating used to be very non violent. It used to be a brightness, heat spring future. Folk had been very comfy even though there used to be this army presence.

And what took place used to be that Normal Del Corso of the Ohio Nationwide Barricade rode over in a Jeep and mentioned, you don’t have any ethical to develop, it’s important to disperse. Folk yelled and didn’t disperse, at which level the safe shaped on the alternative finish of the Commons and started a barrage of tear fuel that, when you see the pictures of this, is rather like you’re in a huge cloud of tear fuel. And for the ones of you who’ve by no means had the bliss of being tear gassed, at that time, the protest used to be over. It were damaged up.

We run over, we had been in entrance of a hill. We run over a hill, Blanket Hill to the alternative aspect to break out from the fuel, and this order of guardsmen who began marching in opposition to us. At the alternative aspect of the hill, there used to be a convention farmland, a taking part in farmland. And by means of this pace, we were in large part dispersed. We had been in all places the park. The safe marched to the center of the follow farmland, crouched, aimed their guns, however were given up, grew to become round, and began marching again to the Commons the place they’d began from.

On the manage of the hill, with out a scholars threatening them or anything else, and while you see the scholars, many of the scholars had been loads of ft away [who were] shot, they grew to become and shot, fired into the people. And it left 4 useless and 9 wounded.

Now, maximum of them didn’t kill at scholars, or there would’ve been a accumulation worse carnage. As you had been mentioning sooner than, those had been younger public. A accumulation of public within the safe had been there to keep away from getting to Vietnam as a result of for any person my day, that used to be the query. When I used to be in highschool, while you had been graduating highschool, the query used to be, what are you getting to do to keep away from Vietnam? I had a brother who going to Canada. There have been public who shot their ft off. Folk had a wide variety of how. And next a accumulation of public would attach the Barricade or the Coast Barricade or no matter would accumulation ’em out of Vietnam.

And there used to be a accumulation of fraternization between the Guardsmen and the scholars. Allison Krause, who used to be an anti-war protester, famously put a flower within the barrel of one of the crucial Guardsmen’s weapons and mentioned, plants are higher than bullets, which galvanized the admirable poet Yevtushenko to write down an exquisite poem.

Marc Steiner:  Proper. That age, public don’t understand that that modified. When she did that, it changed into this symbolic, this robust, symbolic age that affected all of the anti-war motion.

Mike Alewitz:  Sure.

Marc Steiner:  It used to be iconic.

Mike Alewitz:  Yeah. And now, Sandy Scheuer, who used to be my good friend, I don’t know when you would name her an activist, however she would at all times rush flyers from me and hand them out and stuff. I assumption she used to be a borderline activist. And Allison indisputably took admirable satisfaction in her job. She had marched on demonstrations sooner than and used to be very happy with that. The entire historical past of the bloodbath used to be suppressed. And one of the crucial issues they did is that they attempted to depoliticize this, specifically Allison and Sandy, as although they had been simply sufferers, that they weren’t available in the market protesting the struggle. And next they suppressed the entire historical past of the anti-war motion at Kent. They’ve attempted to erase the historical past. They created a fictional historical past, which has took place in a accumulation of playgrounds, that SDS used to be the unconventional staff on campus — Which there used to be an SDS. However SDS upcoming it known as the primary March on Washington didn’t formally sponsor any of the anti-war movements upcoming that.

It were given to the purpose across the fiftieth commemoration 5 years in the past. They named Stephanie Danes Smith as head of organizing the commemoration. Smith used to be a manage legit within the Central Prudence Company. She labored immediately with Condoleezza Rice and those alternative scumbags to prepare terror websites that had been being worn. And he or she used to be answerable for the commemoration. They usually’ve attempted to only utterly depoliticize it and rush the pile motion away. So it turns into, oh, this horrific false impression.

However the reality is they may be able to attempt to modify those histories, they may be able to attempt to airbrush historical past. They’ve attempted to try this with the entire anti-war motion. You don’t pay attention about what used to be happening and stuff. However they may be able to’t erase the collective awareness of the operating elegance. And that changed into deeply embedded. The warriors who fought in Vietnam had been profoundly affected, and to the purpose the place the anti-war motion had such an impact that america can not usefulness troops in the similar method. They are able to bomb public from the breeze. That’s what they do. They bomb. They are able to walk into Afghanistan, they walk to Iraq, bomb public from the breeze. However they run into large issues once they attempt to occupy as a result of next it’s human beings going through human beings.

And it’s true that it’s a volunteer Military now, however in point of fact it’s an financial draft. A accumulation of those children are Lightless and Latino children who haven’t any alternative choices in order that they attach the carrier. They wish to get a talent, now and again they simply want a process. And so they have got a weakness sending Lightless and Brown infantrymen into international locations the place it’s public of colour.

So the whole thing has been modified in that method. And they may be able to ship the safe into Los Angeles. However who’re the safe? Once more, it’s in large part African American, Latino, a accumulation of girls now, and they’re going through their neighbors, their households, their buddies.

Marc Steiner:  It’ll be attention-grabbing to look if that in truth occurs. This will probably be an actual age to look if that has an impact. I wish to focal point a negligible bit on, given what we’re going through as of late, what you suppose that legacy of Kent Order and Jackson Order and the ones moments in our historical past that the ones people who’re getting lengthy within the enamel skilled [laughs], what do they are saying about what we’re going through as of late? As a result of we’re in a matching park, possibly an much more unhealthy park, internally on this nation than we had been even next, what may well be coming. So what does that age say for you on your research of what we are facing at this pace?

Mike Alewitz:  Neatly, I believe it’s very ethical while you say that there’s a accumulation extra at stake at this level in historical past. This isn’t 1970. We had been preventing to finish the struggle. It used to be the ladies’s motion used to be rising, the homosexual rights motion started —

Marc Steiner:  The Lightless liberation motion.

Mike Alewitz:  A majority of these social actions started to emerge, and it used to be an excessively positive pace for socialists and activists. We noticed those admirable actions growing. They’d an incredible impact on American tradition. For any person like myself who grew up in a semi-rural housing challenge within the Nineteen Fifties, the ’70s used to be wonderful, and it utterly reworked American crowd.

Now although, we’re preventing for the very, in my view, we’re preventing for the very lifestyles of the species as a result of capitalism is death. The United States empire is death, and it’s no longer good-looking. It’s an excessively unsightly factor. And those public who’re answerable for this, and the federal government officers, no longer simply of this nation, however of various international locations, they’re completely keen to let the entire planet walk unwell the crapper of their fantastic quest for earnings. All they know is easy methods to thieve cash. So we’re confronted with the potential for nuclear annihilation or the worldwide alternate that may essentially spoil many species. So the stakes are good-looking large on this.

Marc Steiner:  With regards to what took place with the scholar motion within the overdue ’60s and early ’70s, we’re sight at this age this attack towards universities by means of the precise wing, by means of the public within the Trump management, to decimate universities and to push them again into the twilight ages of the ’30s. That’s a work of this. I used to be serious about Kent Order, alternative issues that took place across the nation, the organizing that took park on campuses, and it’s very other at the moment. In some ways, it pushes again the whole thing public fought for within the ’60s and ’70s, from civil rights to anti-war stuff, to nation organizing, it’s modified all of the paradigm of the folk.

Mike Alewitz:  Neatly, they’re looking to, they’re looking to. They wish to walk again to the ’50s, form The us admirable once more. They wish to walk again to the Nineteen Fifties when girls had been within the kitchen, when gays had been within the closet. When it used to be this extremely oppressive crowd, and employees dutifully went about their jobs and weren’t protesting, they’d love to walk again to that. And it’s no longer getting to occur. You’ll’t put the genie again within the bottle.

Now what’s took place is that they’ve tapped into probably the most enrage that exists they usually’ve redirected it. That’s what the foundation of this ethical wing… I don’t even like to name it right-wing backup to Trump. Those are public who’re very enraged, as they will have to be. Sadly, their enrage is misdirected. However over pace, the guarantees which were made to public, they accumulation promising that issues are getting to be such a lot higher. The truth of the subject is capitalism can’t resolve those issues, and public are very enraged, and it’s all getting to .

I believe that’s what we’re sight the beginnings of in Los Angeles. At the moment, it’s focused round immigrant employees and protests by means of immigrant employees, however that’s at all times been who has led social alternate on this nation. After we glance again on the Thirties and we take a look at the sit-down moves and stuff, and also you glance in, you spot the ones white employees, you don’t suppose, oh, immigrant employees, however they had been immigrant employees. They had been from the Baltics, they had been from Japanese Europe, they had been from Scandinavia. They usually had been brutally mistreated, they usually arranged commercial unions. They led the group of business unions. That’s how alternate occurs.

And we’re sight the beginnings of this. It’s getting to be, sadly, we’re saddled with union, with a union paperwork this is utterly abstaining, is solely sitting by means of the sidelines. The American operating elegance, which has one of these proud and militant historical past, being led by means of those millionaire bureaucrats, mainly. The pinnacle of the California SEIU will get arrested and the AFL-CIO doesn’t do anything else. It’s astounding.

Marc Steiner:  That used to be good-looking astounding, sure.

Mike Alewitz:  And in large part, those faculty directors are toeing the order. Like bureaucrats, they have got to accumulation the host alive. So when Harvard is being threatened with being destroyed, next they form a couple of timid feedback they usually record complaints. All of them record complaints as although that by some means resolves anything else. Submitting a lawsuit is incomprehensible. To start with, they don’t pay any consideration to the result of these items. And the alternative factor they do is you were given Sanders and AOC going across the nation announcing, you were given to battle oligarchy, they usually’re simply looking to advertise the Democratic Birthday celebration and their very own careers, they usually’re looking to channel the enrage —

Marc Steiner:  You suppose that’s all they’re doing?

Mike Alewitz:  — Again into the Democratic Birthday celebration.

Marc Steiner:  Do you suppose that what they’re doing is that slender?

Mike Alewitz:  Oh yeah.

Marc Steiner:  I heartless, I’m no longer announcing that they’re the end-all-be-all.

Mike Alewitz:  I believe they’re looking to save the Democratic Birthday celebration. Folk are so ill of the Democratic Birthday celebration, as they will have to be, which has performed not anything to satisfy their wishes, they usually’re going through extra screw ups in elections, and, yeah, AOC and Bernie Sanders and a few of these alternative jokers, they wish to save the Democratic Birthday celebration. They are saying, we will be able to have a unique more or less birthday party, you simply were given to get again in order. You were given to return to our factor. You were given to provide us cash, and we’re going to resolve this weakness. Neatly, that’s no longer getting to occur. That’s no longer how alternate occurs. So it’s an try to divert it.

Now, what occurs is 10, 20,000 public display as much as these items, they usually’re no longer there to save lots of the Democratic Birthday celebration, they’re there to stop the federal government. So, in a way, that a part of it’s aspiring. They’re getting to, it unleashes. Anytime you’re with hundreds of public chanting towards the federal government, public get a way of their very own energy.

There used to be an excessively telling incident at certainly one of Sanders’s issues the place public held up a Palestine banner in the back of the place he used to be talking.

Marc Steiner:  Proper. I noticed that.

Mike Alewitz:  Activists held up a “Free Palestine” banner, and he had them arrested, and the public had been chanting “Free Palestine.” And that ethical there simply displays precisely what the dynamic is in those gatherings. The weakness is the operating elegance doesn’t have a political birthday party of its personal. It doesn’t have a exertions birthday party. It has those ossified bureaucrats on the head of our industry unions. There’s negative civil rights staff or girls’s staff taking the degree to deliver to aid arrange. These items in Los Angeles is completely arranged from the field up by means of younger public. Excellent on them. It’s glorious to look.

However sadly, enrage and protest isn’t plethora. You need to arrange a motion that demanding situations the ruling elegance. My hope is that that emerges from all this. I’m positive there’s a accumulation of political dialogue happening that we’re no longer getting studies on. They only rush a couple of incidents and display the ones. They don’t display the method that’s happening. Thankfully, there’s additional media like your self and alternative public who convey some of these items out.

Marc Steiner:  Within the pace we now have left sooner than we alike out, so there’s the entire things you’ve described. Is there a unutilized mural on your head that you wish to have to get out?

Mike Alewitz:  Neatly [both laugh], I’m in truth portray a factor about Kent. I’m doing it within the studio, however I’m. It’s on my bucket checklist sooner than I release useless [Steiner laughs]. I think like, Jesus, it’s been 54 years, by no means painted a factor. Disagree, in truth, at the fortieth commemoration, a fellow school member, I used to be educating mural portray at Central Connecticut Order —

Marc Steiner:  The fortieth commemoration of what?

Mike Alewitz:  Of the bloodbath.

Marc Steiner:  OK, gotcha. Proper, ethical, ethical.

Mike Alewitz:  At the fortieth yearly, so 15 years in the past, myself and Jerry Butler, who got here from Jackson, Mississippi, we painted a 40-foot commemorative banner, and the banner and determination is to be had if any person needs to look at. When you walk to Purple Sq., the Purple Sq., Purple Sq. is our negligible, [inaudible] mural museum in Fresh London, Connecticut.

Marc Steiner:  We can hyperlink to that, sure.

Mike Alewitz:  In the event that they walk to Purple Sq., redsq.org, our web site, you’ll be able to to find hyperlinks to all of these items, all these things about Kent, the mural, the determination. Scholars at Kent have long past again, a accumulation of scholars have long past again each yr, and it’s this nostalgic affair, and it’s noteceable to commemorate what took place there. I’ve at all times felt that the commemoration will have to be out [inaudible], so I’ve at all times worn Might 4 as a anticipation to provide slideshows, to turn what took place, to discuss the anti-war motion, to assemble opposition to america wars and occupations out of the country. That’s the actual commemoration. That’s the actual, residing memorial to the scholars of Kent.

We’re going to walk thru some very crisp occasions. There’s getting to be very crisp occasions forward. However upcoming the ultimate weeks and months, getting up this morning taking a look at the entire demonstrations, younger public pouring into the streets and preventing as perfect they may be able to, it warms my middle. It in point of fact does. It will give you hope for the moment. Probably the most slogans from the foremost occasions in France used to be “Our hope comes from the hopeless,” and I believe that’s especially true. It’s those that’ve been marginalized, who’ve been ridiculed, who’ve been subjected to the worst methods of oppression who’re getting to encourage us to assemble unutilized actions for social alternate.

Marc Steiner:  And in that method, what took place at Kent Order, and public want to know the tale as it’s that more or less motion, it’s that more or less energy that conjures up the remains.

Mike Alewitz:  The shootings at Kent used to be a spark. It used to be the pile enrage that went on for a few years of being lied to concerning the struggle in Vietnam. It will’ve took place from some alternative match if it hadn’t took place at Kent.

We’ve been gazing as those sociopaths in Washington were waging those attacks on operating public over the ultimate years, and now there’s a spark, and that spark is in LA, and it’s getting to be emulated. There’s getting to be demonstrations in all places the rustic. There’s getting to be protests towards ICE. We’re getting to call for that ICE be abolished. We’re getting to safe as perfect we will be able to those that are being victimized.

And within the procedure, we’re exposing the actual nature of this executive, similar to we’re exposing the actual nature of Israel. We’re available in the market. This began by means of opposing a genocide. That’s what resulted in this. Simply because it wasn’t violent pupil protests that ends up in the implementation of army attack at the town, it used to be the truth that we’re opposing the genocide of the public in Gaza, and that’s one thing that america does no longer wish to permit, that the ruling elegance of this nation does no longer wish to permit. However Israel is uncovered to all of the international. The United States is uncovered to all of the international.

By no means in my lifetime has it been so sunlit the character of capitalism and its bloody palms than what’s happening as of late. I believe extra public are extra mindful that capitalism should die than at any pace in my day.

Marc Steiner:  Michael, this has been an enchanting dialog, and we’re going to hyperlink for your paintings as effectively as a result of public want to see it.

Mike Alewitz:  Neatly, I thanks. I want we had extra pace. I believe I may just chat with you for an extended pace.

Marc Steiner:  We will be able to come again possibly and simply focal point in to your work of art, which might be admirable.

Mike Alewitz:  I would really like that. I would really like that. Neatly, I’ve to thanks excited by inviting me to mention those few phrases. It’s a lot favored.

Marc Steiner:  Accumulation your brush on the in a position.

Mike Alewitz:  And walk to our web site, redsq.org and take a look at alternative stuff that we have got.

Marc Steiner:  Completely. It’s effectively importance it. Thanks such a lot for being with us as of late.

Mike Alewitz:  Alright, thanks, Marc.

Marc Steiner:  As soon as once more, thanks to Mike Alewitz for becoming a member of us as of late. And due to David Hebden for operating our program, and our audio essayist, Alina Nehlich, and manufacturer Rosette Sewali for making all of it paintings in the back of the scenes, and everybody right here at The Actual Information for making this display imaginable.

And please let me know what you considered what you heard as of late, what you’d like us to defend. Simply incrible to me at mss@therealnews.com and I’ll get ethical again to you.

As soon as once more, thanks Mike Alewitz on your lavish paintings and for being a part of our program as of late. And so for the workforce right here at The Actual Information, I’m Marc Steiner. Keep concerned, accumulation listening, and rush aid.